Vicki and Jacob talk origin stories, fear, the importance of honesty in building onging relationships, Jacob's trip to Japan and being clear.

• Theme: "The Beach! The Beach" by Holy Coast on the Free Music Archive.
• -urgy suffix
• Spiderman gets married
• Perhaps in a Hundred Years
• ATP playRites Festival
• Dedicated to the Revolutions
• LMDA Conference - Vancouver 2002 is when Jacob and Vicki met. There is little evidence on the internet
• Small Wooden Shoe and Antigone Dead People in Japan in PICTURES
• Jacob was a Robert Wilson "nut" "as a kid."
• TheatreForum was a place Jacob saw pictures of cool theatre.
• "Everyone is winging it all the time"
• Anne Bogart – On Violence in A Director Prepares
• Dune: Fear is the mind killer

"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain"

• 11 Conversations for Small Wooden Shoe
• Manual for Incidence / Public Recordings