Not Quite, A Think Tank

Jacob Wren · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 75 Location: Montreal

Julien Donkey Boy and the "Mistakist Declaration - by Harmony Korine

1. i have never been one to gravitate toward the labelling of things. But i feel forced to declare my adherance to a mode of creation known as "mistakism"

2. i am a "mistakist" and all the work I produce adheres to the tenants attached to the label/movement.

3. (factors involved include)

4. All modes of work exist to produce a single body of work. each facet builds upon the other.

5. you can never differentiate between the seperate modes of creation.

6. A completely unified aesthetic.

7. Mistakes are good.

8. there is no such thing as a true mistake. only a more modern rethinking.

9. Suicide is a show of strength.

10. only in randomness and "mistakes" can one truely announce what is too deep to express in a direct and true way.

11. football games, science projects and explosions.

12. rather than direct a scene - document the action

13. Provocations

14. Heritage - Lineage - Prejudice.

15. grammer means more when words are mispelled and used incorrectly in the traditional sense of the word.

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17. Jokes without Punchlines.

18. Hermits and rural Lonliness

19. A "Mistakist" must believe in God over all else.

this is how I made Julien Donkey Boy
The DOGME 95 is early "Mistakism."

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I quite like this. And the idea of manifestos and art movements in general. Anything so it seems like people are more united and less isolated. Though I suppose "Mistakism" is more or less a movement of one. Perhaps I'll join.

Any thoughts?

Jacob Zimmer · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject:

I'd be much more likely to sign on the Mistakism then Dogma 95 -
though I find "6. A completely unified aesthetic. " difficult. - going back to the formalagitpropist discussion, I think holding diverse aesthetics in the same space an exciting possibility.

I too enjoy manifestos and movements - for awhile I think the writing Erik Ehn was doing for "Rat" (http://www.ratconference.com) had a possibility of finding community and some unified belief amid diverse small theatre companies in the States. 10 years in and it fell apart once Erik and his language backed away.

I also have to admit that part of starting this forum was not to start a movement, but maybe to see if the conditions and interest might exist.

jacob zimmer

Jacob Wren · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 75 Location: Montreal

Dixon · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Toronto

The last two: hermits and rural loneliness and belief in God above all else? Are these jokes? Provocations? What does she mean by them?

Jacob Zimmer · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:

I can only suppose for him...

the hermits and rural lonliness- well can't even really try - other then his films often include them - also maybe the feeling of doing the kind of work he's doing.

God - I pretty much agree with him, although we might have different Gods... to rely on mistakes and chance, and maybe to do any work for which you probably won't recieve earthly gains requires a level of faith in that which is larger then ourselves - whatever that means to you. I read it in Jacob Ws post on the agit-prop/formalism thread, and I read it in Erik Ehn and Helene Cixous and other writers who inspire me. And most "why" arguments seem to end in some call to faith (which is maybe a way to escape the argument). Sometimes the language is softened or moved away from any religious ground, but Korine does tend to move towards the anxious places (the suicide item being another example) -

certainly I think it's provocation - maybe a good manifesto needs to challenge those who might believe it as well.

any other interpretations?

Jacob W: good points - don't know. thinking.

jacob z